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By Sjaak
#1828 it could be your 50 ohm line like squonk said? the thicknes is not 25-26mill all the way to the connector. looks like lots of reflections there :)

My analogue knowledge is very very rusty so please dont take it serious :)
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By Claude
#1831
Sjaak wrote:it could be your 50 ohm line like squonk said? the thicknes is not 25-26mill all the way to the connector. looks like lots of reflections there :)


Hmm not sure , even when the full RF power is reflected due to a bit of mismatch (approx 86Ohm @10mil vs 50Ohm @26mil , still terminated with a solid 50.0Z in my SA) , I still don't see how the BW could 'explode' like in the first pic.
Further the mismatch is still present when I did the second measurement with the ESP powered off , but the occupied BW of my AP looks good.

I also tried to put an 10dB attentuator on the RF-In of the SA (SA goes only up to +20dBm), same spectrum but 10dB lower. So definitely no distortion effect of the SA input stage here.
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By Claude
#1885 I did some further testing , especially for ruling out that the impendance mismatch of the SMA feedline influences the measured spectrum.

For that I first checked if the RF Power of the ESP is within the range written in the ESP8266EX Datasheet.
I used a Minicircuits ZX47-40-S+ Power Detector (I'm too cheap for the Power Detector Head for the SA...)

Thats the output voltage vs RF input Power diagram of the Minicircuits Powerdetector

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And that is what I measure

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The ESP Datasheet states a output Power of +15.5 to +17.5dBm @ 72Mbps , my AP says the ESP is associated with 65Mbps

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So I get roundabout +16dBm out of the ESP , but one have also have to take the RSMA to SMA Adapters and RF Cabling into account what I used to connect the Powerdetector to the ESP (~ -0.5dB) .
Well within the values in the Datasheet :D

I also did a S22 (aka 2 Port Insertion Loss measurement) on the 50 Ohm line between the RSMA connector and the 5.6pf coupling cap (the part of the PCB where I have a missmatch due to 10mils vs 26mils)

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Doesn't look soooo bad afterall :D :D :D
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By Claude
#1912 DOH! :roll:

Okay sometimes it is better to RTFM before doing things :)

It was indeed a distortion effect on the spectrum analyzer! I left the "High Gain" Option on in the settings menu.

Here is how the spectrum looks when all settings are correct

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It's safe to say now that the ESP works on my breakout board as it should.
Compared to the leaked preliminary FCC test report I get similar results. YAY :D