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- Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:22 pm #54833 For more recent versions of windows to receive UDP broadcasts the network connection must be set as home or work. I have found setting it to public will not allow UDP broadcasts to be received. I only have one Win10 machine at my house and it is able to connect to my ESP8266 devices using espbasic.

If netmask and default gateway are populated in the .dat files they can be obtained there. I missed this earlier.

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- Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:00 am #54862 Yeah, was just how I said... the newly installed Win10 saw the available wifi AP but would not connect to it. Never even got the chance to try UDP. Was in the mountains, so no incentive to dig deeper.

So in in the opinion of you guys who have used Win10, is there anything that would make the upgrade from Win7 a worthwhile step to take?

Cos I was only taking advantage of the free Win10 uprgade offer before the deadline ran out, but I don't trust Microsofts intended future strategies nor need the unwelcome MS hassle to be honest, which was why I Restored Win 7 again later and found that with nothing else changed anywhere I was able to connect again ok to the ESP as normal. Which proved that the failure to connect in the mountains was most definitely a problem with the new bog-standard default Win10.

I have MCP and MCSE + I, so I expect I could have buried myself into the new (for me) Win10 and coerced it into doing my bidding, but I resent the default bullying tactics of the Big Boys to steer the world into directions that suit THEM rather than give their customers free choice. Bill Gates didn't become the richest man in the world by fair play, he weaponised Windows to ruthlessly destroy opposition - Internet Explorer was deliberately made un-removable from Windows in order to kill off the better third-party browser competition like Netscape, leaving the world wide open for Microsoft to swamp their buggy, bloated, non-compliant, default IE... offering practical opportunities and incentives for spawning an entire new global malware market which has become an accepted way of life, as have Windows updates to belatedly keep patching the endless inevitable holes. I saw reports that the recently rolled out Win10 update caused MILLIONS of webcams to stop working. So what? ... just another day at the office for Microsoft - even though it undoubtedly caused great distress and anxiety to many of their customers, and possibly loss to others.

I'm sure Win10 offers benefits to many people, but if it has no advantages to offer me then I would prefer to not unnecessarilly waste any more of my life trying to get newer Microsoft products to work the way I want them to. I know I'm only delaying the inevitable, but time waits for no-one, and what I do now with the present is more important than any unavoidable future time-wasting.
So is Win10 worth upgrading to, or not?

Where to get modules?

https://www.banggood.com/custlink/KvGGhGF4wG

- Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:57 pm #54891 There are benefits I have found to windows 10 in its operation after setting up about 500+ PC's with windows 10 some of them may not be as evident but some are. The interface takes some getting used to. I agree with a lot of your sentiments about bullying but in this day and age most people use 3rd party browsers actually. I'm still an old fan of firefox which is technically going to be updating their browser to a google chrome like interface the only difference is firefox has learned how to do more with less resources so as the rollout ensues it will first start with people who do not have plugins especially those nifty ad blocker plugins then move on in the next few months to those that do and force plugin makers to update.

As for some of the bullying and privacy violations these same things that most everyone worries about is now included in windows 7 as well and to be rather honest there has been a key on your PC that has allowed back door access to the NSA since windows 98 . Also intel processors since 2006 have machine code in them that could potentially allow a complete comprimise of all computer as do AMD processors on or after 2012 I believe it is essentially like a DRM type code which could be used and exploited in a poor manner from what I have read. So should people be concerned absolutely they should they should organize against these types of things. Like logging what is on your screen "smart screen filter" logging what you speak about through voice recognition "cortana" logging what you type. This is all done for reasons that are proclaimed to be helpful to the user. But obviously for the right price the data will be sold to the highest bidder much like any other meta data.

Windows 10 has a lot of genuinely useful new features, as well as key improvements to old features, compared to Windows 7. None is enough on its own to make an upgrade necessary, but when combined they do make a compelling case.

You’ve got better search, window management, file management, gaming tools and more. Windows 10 is faster in general use, too, and the new Start Menu is in some ways better than the one in Windows 7.

Drivers for many things I have used seem to be more fluent with installation the automation of this.

Wifi Connected printers seem to be automatically recognized and added as a printer in many cases which is another thing of interest.

Once you learn how to use it you will find there is quicker access to what you want over all. The interface is slightly clunky when it comes to settings the new settings pages are not as featured I suggest you use the search panel and type control panel etc... I have a COMPTIA A+ cert which covers a fairly broad spectrum of things with computing as well just not as microsoft centric.

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- Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:17 pm #54911 This is a win10 pro PC connected to a wired home network. The wired network has an access point that allows esp8266's to join the network and get IP's.
An esp with an IP can then broadcast with xxx.xxx.xxx.255. Other esp8266 can see the broadcast packet. I expected it might be possible for a WIN 10
application to also see the broadcast packet.
This issue is not about flashing esp8266's it is exclusive to receiving a UDP broadcast packet
. It probably requires knowledge of what Microsoft will allow...I suspect perhaps only certain
values for xxx.xxx.xxx.255 will be passed through and further filtered to perhaps to a specific port only. Maybe this is a Microsoft secret.
I have tried varying the port with the esp's and they will work...it is the Win10 OS that seems to block UDP
The same PC has access to other PC's and can access the Internet.
If anyone knows if Microsoft's WIN 10 can ever receive broadcast packets or has any information on Microsoft's NETBIOS restrictions etc.
I don't even know if Microsoft sees Iot as something its OS should support.

The PC and the esp's work with MQTT but it always requires a broker.